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Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 20:43:17

Omniscient 
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"Normal players can't practice this seasonal and that's a very unfair advantage to players like me in comparison to members.."

Oh no, people that paid money actually get something now. The horror.
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 20:45:19

Lightning Revenant
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LD - check
NLC - check
No attack only - check
No transfer only - check
Commanders - check


Officially the best template Warlight has ever seen! (Although if you threw in auto distribution and MA, it would take it to a whole new level)
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 20:45:38


Ox
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that it is exactly the template that I expected


OMG ONOMA



YOU'RE A GENIUS

(btw he wasn't being serious about potatoes, that's Plat who's a potatoe :S)

#10daysinadvance

pls win the lottery and move to sailesia <3
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 20:45:57


Turkish
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I haven't played the template but would be better if the players of last season got a vote or players in general... Bit upset on how this is done
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 20:52:20


master of desaster 
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all i hope is that this template won't be added on the rt ladder. sitting out a seasonal isn't much of a Problem, getting this temnplate on the rt ladder would be bad since it's unavoidable.
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 21:00:07


Onoma94
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I was drunk ok

Edited 8/14/2016 18:46:58
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 21:27:27

Omniscient 
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Membership used to have actual benefits. Back then you needed to be a member to use the ladder. Now you're bitching because members have a "advantage" on the ladder.

Membership has been watered down bullshit for far too long.It having benefits is not a bad thing, entitled people expecting everything for free however are scum.

It's not pay to win. Pay to win would be buying armies, paying for first order, etc.

Also you could practice your little heart out, it might let you finish top 100, but lets not kid ourselves about top 20.

Edited 8/13/2016 21:28:28
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 21:48:32


indibob
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wow, load of babies, if it isn't ME WR with no fun settings you'll cry...

Someday learning to play another template might be beneficial
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 22:01:14


timon92 
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Vacations not honored? I'm out.

//edit: Fizzer has altered the template so it honors vacations

Edited 8/17/2016 22:35:44
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 22:02:56


ViralGoat 
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made some practice games with open seats

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11760940
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11760612

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11760606

Edited 8/13/2016 22:18:31
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 22:11:20

Fizzer 
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Vacations not honored?

Oops, it's supposed to honor vacations. I fixed it.
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 22:51:26

Omniscient 
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"wow, load of babies, if it isn't ME WR with no fun settings you'll cry...

Someday learning to play another template might be beneficial"

Believe it or not Einstein, we've played the settings, it's how we know we don't like them.

Those of us complaining are not "sheltered". We're better at every setting combination than you are.
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 23:05:24


Lukku
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Thanks for reminding me that skill at Warlight supersedes manners.
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 23:11:09

Omniscient 
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Most things supersede manners.

http://sl4.org/crocker.html

Call a spade a spade, stop being afraid to have opinions, and be more concerned with being right than with being "nice" and you just might actually amount to something useful.

I think Beren phrased this season best:

[5:37:50 PM] Beren: I don't understand why you are all complaining
[5:38:10 PM] Beren: commanders and LD is a great combination for a seasonal
[5:38:35 PM] Beren: commanders encourages you never to surrender, since you never know if you'll get an opportunity for a lucky commander kill
[5:38:48 PM] Beren: and LD makes games drag on 10 turns too long as well
[5:39:01 PM] Beren: so every game will end with force surrenders!

Edited 8/13/2016 23:15:50
Season XXV!: 8/13/2016 23:41:05


Lukku
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Hmm I think that was a useful slap in the face. Begrudgingly there is little that can be objected about that statement. Thanks for the perspective.
Season XXV!: 8/14/2016 00:12:06


Sułtan Kosmitów
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@Omniscient
Well said though my rule of nitpicking forces me to dissagree in at least one thing...
Most things supersede manners.

Probably we have a different understanding of manners :(
For more and more people having manners means following the rules of political correctness.
For me manners have always meant to say hi on the beggining of the game, to contain oneself and not to say "fuck you" after losing a won game...or apologising after farting in public.

Manners doesn't have to exclude sincerity...
And in your statement I detect contempt to your interlocutor.

P.S. Do you follow that Crocker's Rules?
You break the main rule of them: "they don't implement reciprocity".
You should still follow other people's expectations when you talk to them..

P.S.S.
I like the idea of the Crocker's Rules very much.

Edited 8/14/2016 00:26:53
Season XXV!: 8/14/2016 00:25:12

Omniscient 
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"P.S. Do you follow that Crocker's Rules?"

Absolutely. I am human, thus fallible, but I at least try to learn from all criticisms.

I don't say Hi, GLHF, etc. at he start of every game, but I have no issue with those that do.

I certainly will never apologize for farting though. It's a bodily function, if someone is offended by it, fuck them.
Season XXV!: 8/14/2016 00:27:26


Sułtan Kosmitów
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^ Edited a bit :P

You break the main rule of them: "they don't implement reciprocity".
You should still follow other people's expectations when you talk to them..


EDIT:
This is a very interesting things. Two questions come to my mind:
The manners - our communication protocol was invented for some reason. What was it? Was it usefull? Should we like that just get rid of it, what do we lose in this case?

And the second one: Shortaning the information causes loss of some data, where is the right limit of the length - where the information is still 100% clear but is the shortest possible.

Edited 8/14/2016 00:37:24
Season XXV!: 8/14/2016 00:35:13


Жұқтыру
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It's a bodily function, if someone is offended by it, fuck them.


You can hold it in, or better yet, don't eat so much.
Season XXV!: 8/14/2016 00:38:11

Omniscient 
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That's not exactly right.

I can speak frankly to people regardless of how they may interpret it. That has nothing to do with Crocker's rules, it has to do with being an opinionated human being exercising my freedom to speak my mind. Delivery is on me, interpretation on them.

I expect people to interpret criticisms correctly, it doesn't mean they have to, but should they not do so it's only harming them and is really not my concern. I can lead a horse to water, it is not my burden to force it to drink.

I don't go out of my way to insult people, that's just being an asshole - I merely rarely go out of my way to not insult someone.

ie. Big difference between playing someone and after the game saying:

Turn 6 was bad, you misplayed terribly, you did this when you should have done that instead.

and responding by saying: You're a terrible player and you should be ashamed to play like that. You are a disgrace to the human race.


The former is blunt, and arguably rude, but also constructive should they be capable of interpreting it as such, the latter is not.

Edited 8/14/2016 00:39:23
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