@MasterOfWarZone

"KK2nd BFD" said a few valid points. Also, apart from being rude, you have one valid point. If the money you spend on sport/entertainment, is very little in relation to your income, then you are in a different situation and everything costs you less, because you can afford it much easier.

It's all relative. My topic was mostly aimed at people who spend a noticeable part of their time/income on "empty entertainment".

Edited 8/23/2016 22:39:01

Just let people spend money on what they want.

^ Gotta get that meth.

Why do people pay for drugs?
Why do people pay for homes?
Why do people pay for their children to go to school?
Why do people pay to play games?
Why do people pay to go out to eat?

Just comes down to what people value. People value things differently than you. People who value paying sports will go out and pay to get specialized gear to play it. People who value video games will spend money to have a nice computer and buy the latest games. People who pay for their children to go to school value their child's education.

I was on holidays for three weeks in a place where the "cool kids" come, with rich parents. They do surfing, kitesurfing, visit fancy restaurants, party all the time, get drunk, smoke weed, listen to brainless music.

I think I could never be like them. Maybe I have spent so much time around these people, that now I think everyone is like this. This can overwhelm your psyche when you are constantly around people who are the opposite to you.

I hope that I will find people who are more like me and value and prioritize similar things. However, as for now, finding them seems like looking for a drop of water in an ocean : /

I was on holidays for three weeks in a place where the "cool kids" come, with rich parents. They do surfing, kitesurfing, visit fancy restaurants, party all the time, get drunk, smoke weed, listen to brainless music.

I think I could never be like them. Maybe I have spent so much time around these people, that now I think everyone is like this. This can overwhelm your psyche when you are constantly around people who are the opposite to you.

I hope that I will find people who are more like me and value and prioritize similar things. However, as for now, finding them seems like looking for a drop of water in an ocean : /

Agree with this one. I like sports and recreation, but the other stuff - ughhh.

*Tips Fedora*
Hello fellow intelligent WarLighter (berdan)! I too do not see why the peasants waste time and money on meaningless hobbies and sources of enjoyment like sports. Also, I share the same problem of having difficulties making friends. The inferiors do not share my views or hobbies.

Shall we rejoice together as the both of us possess higher intellect than the common human?

Feel free to message me, however as for now my timezone forces me to end the day.

I think I have found an answer to my original question. I will post it soon.

According to my logic, it's a waste of money since there are so many ways to train your muscles for free.(think running, cycling, training with your own weight, training with heavy objects, you can do whatever your creativity allows you to think of).

Sports isn`t only for training your muscles. It can also be a way to meet new people, get together with people you like and a good way to clear your mind for a while. Sports have a different meaning to anyone. You seem to think that sports is only good for training your muscles, in which case a lot of things will seem as a waste of money. For most people however it is a form of entertainment (as said before in this thread).

The reason people are willing to pay for sports is because for a lot of sports you need a good place to play it. If you want to play tennis for example it is quite usefull to have a tennis court. It is also quite usefull to maintain this court so it stays a playable field. Making a tennis court and maintaining it yourself is much more expensive than joining a tennisclub. Because a tennisclub shares those costs between all members. Besides that, sportclubs often offer extras, like diners or fieldtrips. These often come at a lower cost and they are a great way to be around your friends.
Even when it comes to just training your muscles. You`ll need certain machines to do certain exercises. You can`t train all your muscles just with the everyday object you have at your home. So you`ll need to buy some stuff and you need to have enough space to place all of those machines. This is quite expensive, if it is even possible. So once again it is better to share the costs with others and go to a fitnisscentre or something. There you`ll also be assured that you don`t need to maintain the machines nor need to buy new ones when old ones break.

Min34, there is hardly any point I can disagree with in your arguments.

When I started this thread I indeed didn't take into consideration the 'not so obvious' reasons for the case.

So the main two reasons why people take part in organized trainings, as opposed to free, self-organized are:

* Convenience, in case of sports which are problematic to do on your own. Also, you don't need to think and plan your own time on training, someone does that for you.

But most importantly,
* Organized sports tend to provide more stimulation, especially team sports.

So brain stimulation is the answer. It is the decisive factor. Here's an article on this
http://www.saywhydoi.com/mental-stimulation-why-do-i-need-mental-stimulation/

and also https://www.google.co.uk/#q=how+our+brain+needs+stimulation

One of the main reasons to pay for sports that doesn't seem to have been mentioned is training. If you want proper training in that sport then you have to pay. Online youtube videos can only do so much.

Also paying for facilities and equipment.

The main reason to do a sport that you love is that it gives you enjoyment, releasing endorphines that will help you with motivation and to be a more well rounded person.

Some people can be poor, but if you earn any amount of money, and you can read and write and have access to a computer then you are not poor by any standard. Put aside a small amount of money each week or month and put it towards something you enjoy, purely for entertainment and you will find that your quality of life and motivation will improve.

That doesn't have to be sports, but it may be for some :)

Edit: Spelling

Edited 9/5/2016 00:01:36

Because most sports that involve a ball or something:

1. Involve running anyways.
2. Are more fun than just running or cycling.
3. Are played with a team.

Edited 9/5/2016 12:57:55

Calling people stupid only because they like things you don't like or don't understand could be called arrogance

It's actually called bigotry. OP is a bigot.

big·ot·ry: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

I love how people call you a bigot or an arrogant person, or stupid just because you have expressed your opinion on a behaviour. It seems to me that Krzysztof, Wally Balls and Masterofwarsozone are very insecure, sensitive beings, who get "triggered" by someone else's opinion which is unlike theirs. It's only sad to see this.

FYI I don't hate people with different opinion or people who I find behaving stupid. I just mind my own business, unlike some of you.

You can have an opinion about sports, no problem.

When you are intolerant of how other people feel about sports, that's when you become a bigot. You claim you just mind your own business and don't hate people with different opinions but all you've been doing in this thread is attacking other people for their opinions. That's bigotry.

If you accuse me of bigotry, please at least give a quote which confirms so. I doubt you will find a single sentence where I "attack other people for their opinions".

Also, how can you be tolerant or intolerant of others people's feelings about something? This sentence doesn't even make sense.

Edited 9/6/2016 03:28:08

how can you be tolerant or intolerant of others people's feelings about something?

The same way you can be tolerant of intolerant of anything. By tolerating or not tolerating it.

Person A: "I feel Polish people are dumb and smell bad."

Person B: "That's a sign of stupidity."

Person B, using a direct quote from you, is showing intolerance of Person A's feelings.

If you accuse me of bigotry, please at least give a quote which confirms so

"it's a sign of stupidity."

"I find them do stupid things"

"people who I find behaving stupid"

Edited 9/6/2016 04:12:49

http://www.youngcons.com/cartoon-explains-the-ironic-hypocrisy-of-liberal-tolerance-perfectly/

Wally Balls, I won't respond to your last post. I have no patience for this, maybe someone else has this patience.

Edited 9/6/2016 15:07:12

Playing sports make me happier, healthier, and more effective at work (which helps me make more money). Well worth the cost.

Edited 9/6/2016 18:46:29