,,clinton" is the LEGIT candidate..if you,did not vote for ,,clinton" then your....ILLEGIT!!!!!1

,,clinton" is the LEGIT candidate..if you,did not vote for ,,clinton" then your....ILLEGIT!!!!!1

Is this supposed to be an answer to my question? =D

I am disappointed, i still do not see a civil war...

I wanted Trump to win because I am pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-almost every damn right wing social issue. If Trump lost, Clinton would have put in justices that would certainly have furthered the country away from these stances. It could have been almost any Republican, and I would have sooner had them over Clinton; and as much as I hate to vote by party, it was needed for this election.

A serious answer to your question, is that Trump won the vote for 2 main reasons:

1) Black voters not turning up to vote in the Rust Belt
2) White voters turning up to vote in the Rust Belt

The white, working class voters in the Rust Belt have been successfully convinced by Trump that they have had their jobs stolen by foreign countries, and that he can save them from America's awful trade deals.

Except... America doesn't have awful trade deals, and they are just an easy scapegoat for Trump to blame.

We must look at 3 things for Rust Belt white male working class people.

1) Is it legitimate? - Yes, many jobs previously in Detroit are now in Shanghai.
2) Are there harms? - Duh, job loss leads to the decline of industry and economy, of course.
3) Is Trump the solution? - Not at all. He can talk about cutting as many taxes as possible, or lowering all the regulations that he wants, but there is

*NOTHING*

that he can do, that will get *privately owned businesses* (i.e. state doesn't own them) from Chinese sweat shops, and bring them back to *The Rust Belt*. Cleveland, Detroit, etc. aren't going to recover because they have the minimum wage. What is the solution to that?

1) abolish the minimum wage (something that Trump has flirted with). This is crazy, btw.
2) create new jobs instead of crying about the old ones

The old manufacturing industry is dying. America needs new jobs there, instead of crying about China having poorer rights than USA, which leads to companies realising how profitable the PRC sweat shops are.

This was very scatter-brained, but Trump has convinced too many people that he can bring jobs back when he can't.

and even though I think Trump personally is an inexperienced, racist, misogynistic, etc. blah blah blah, candidate, I also disagree with his typical Republican stances. He may reverse all the good Obama has done for America in the past 8 years.

America needs to wake up and become more like the rest of the western world. Stop feeding your own nationalistic "We are not the rest of the world; we are America" rhetoric. It's incredibly harmful.

^ ^ 1. That is still more support then Clinton would have given

2. The Executive branch is the weakest anyway... I mainly care about Congress and the Court, and the court needed a republican in office to nominate judges who will uphold the constitution to the fullest.

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IMO, the world is trying to **** its self over when it comes to voting.

You know, Ox...

Brazil did it in the past. Germany did it in the past. China did it in the past. Egypt did it in the past. And heck, arguably even the US did it in the past.

But you know what really brings up new jobs?

A crazy ass large scale state project.

Something like a wall...

@Ranek There are much more reasonable reasons. For example people who believe Trump can bring back the jobs, people who believe that Trump can improve security, etc.

Tabby, that's a joke, right? Due to FBI statistics violent crimes in the USA decreased from 2006 to 2016 about 16.5% and during Obama's time unemployment decreased from 11% to 5% and more than 13 million new jobs have been added.

Why should Trump solve problems that are almost nonexistent?

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But you know what really brings up new jobs?

A crazy ass large scale state project.

Something like a wall...

and do you know what is even better? two walls - to prevent a academic bleed out, something like East Germany successfully did...

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Hey, our "crazy ass large scale project" was literally burning coffee. Anything goes as long as it creates the god damn jobs.

FYI: It DID work, we jumped off the 1929 crash barely scathed. And we didn't need a bloody dictator (ours wasn't a dictator yet at the point :P)

two walls - to prevent a academic bleed out, something like East Germany successfully did...

it successfully shielded Ostdeutschland from the fascists

^^^My friend, please look at our inner cities. Please explain to me why we do not dare to visit Detroit or get out in Baltimore at night.

MA is pretty good. However Baltimore is a disaster.

Isn't this cherry picking a matter of communal politics?

Except... America doesn't have awful trade deals, and they are just an easy scapegoat for Trump to blame.

Unequal tariffs are awful deals

3) Is Trump the solution? - Not at all. He can talk about cutting as many taxes as possible, or lowering all the regulations that he wants, but there is

*NOTHING*

that he can do, that will get *privately owned businesses* (i.e. state doesn't own them) from Chinese sweat shops, and bring them back to *The Rust Belt*. Cleveland, Detroit, etc. aren't going to recover because they have the minimum wage. What is the solution to that?

1) abolish the minimum wage (something that Trump has flirted with). This is crazy, btw.

Stop making me want to vote Trump.
Seriously though, if the choices are: Abolish minimum wage so folk can eat or don't abolish the minimum wage and folk decline into poverty, why would you pick the latter? And lowering regulations and taxes make up for a lot of the cost of operating and make America a very good place for business, regardless of the status of the poverty creating minimum wage.

America needs to wake up and become more like the rest of the western world. Stop feeding your own nationalistic "We are not the rest of the world; we are America" rhetoric. It's incredibly harmful.

One, the western world is going to hell and currently wants to invade Russia, so faff that, two, why the hell would voting for the avatar of Satan be beneficial to the world? Bitch probably wants to exterminate all Slavs or something like that.

wtf is happening I consistently find myself not hating MGSB pls help

It's not inherently racial in nature. It's just about safety. You do not want to be in a dangerous neighborhood regardless of the race of its inhabitants.

I guess almost nobody wants to live in a dangerous neighborhood, so pls dont try to convince me or yourself with those cheap tricks. If fear is the only thing that convince people to support trump you are utterly doomed. there is nothing more hilarious in a horrifying way, than a horde of sheeps running from fear towards the abyss!

However, I haven't heard about Baltimore or Detroit throughout the entire pre-election. Maybe the slogan should have been: *Make Baltimore and Detroit great again, and leave the rest of the world alone*, but it wasnt.

I haven't heard about Baltimore or Detroit throughout the entire pre-election.

follow the election more closely then

neh, I picked up more than enough. and neither Baltimore nor Detroit have been in the main focus.

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unemployment decreased from 11% to 5%

Wrong.

The official unemployment rate is about ~4.9%- however, that ONLY COUNTS PEOPLE RECEIVING UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

There are also:

1). The people who used to receive benefits, but ran out of them and could not find a job but stopped getting unemployment

2). People who cannot find full term work and only do various small part time jobs instead.

Counting these people, the unemployment rate is probably 9-15%. (probably a lot closer to 9 than 15, though. Probably less than 10.)

Except... America doesn't have awful trade deals, and they are just an easy scapegoat for Trump to blame.

Seconding MGSB. If you don't think unequal tariffs damage the economy, google tariffs, learn what they are, learn what US tariffs are compared to other countries. Don't be ignorant.

Edited 11/10/2016 01:15:04