At beginning of the season nobody , even of my clanmates, would believe I d contribute to more than 20% of our total wins. Wow !!!

BUG/ERROR report

The bot made a weird mistake. By coincidence we found out the same game has been created (and played) twice. It happend on strat ME vs BIA.

First game: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=13456166
Second game: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=13455835

Both games created on the same day but 3 hours apart from each other. Seems the bot somehow didn't record the game had already been created and created it again. The game first created has been won by GG, the first one finished has been won by BIA. According to the spreadsheet the first finished game has been counted since we have received a loss.

Its difficult to argue if the first game created or the first game finished should be counted since both players played both games in all seriousness. Despite the no replacement game policy we think a 3th game is the only fair way to determine who should receive the win here.

why the fuck did the players join and play 2 games?? obviously the loss should count for both due to the stupidity!

if not the loss can count to both ofcourse the first created game should count. first finnished game is irrelevant cuz its easy to hold up a game. the seccond game shouldnt been created and therefore it should not be put to consideration!

Thats my opinion!

I think the only fair thing to do here is to take 50 points off each team in order to set an example to others in the cl to report such things when they happen.

Kezzo and hobo - are U guys serious or just trolling ?
We will play 3rd game coz that is fair thing to do.
Misstakes/bugs can happen. That is normal.
Case close.

penalty of 50 pts to both clans

im definetly not trolling.

We will play 3rd game coz that is fair thing to do.

Does BIA have the same view? After all the 'No Replacement Rule' would indicate that no such game should be played. Just saying, don't take a 3rd game for granted. Ollie put it better (assuming we - for him meant GG- saying that they would support a 3rd game.)

Not really saying what is the right or wrong thing here. As Ollie already pointed out, there are several 'fair' ways of deciding the bug/error. Putting aside personal preferences, ultimately one needs a decision... and let's hope the result for this game will not impact P/R.


1. Do nothing (aka, the CloT Document is left unchanged, and BIA keeps the win)
2. First game created.
3. First game finished.
4. If both GG and BIA and CL managment agree, a 3rd game.
5. Play a lotto game. (Hey, both players won a game. So a 50% chance to win is fair)
6. Kezzo's option. Both player loses? (taking his word for not trolling)
7. Other solutions?

Main point is that what is 'fair' depends on your perspective. For example a 3rd game could be argued to be unfair, since GG has done better in Div B then BIA, thus GG would be more likely to win a replacement game. (eg. That option favors GG.)

For funsies I kinda like the 5th option. But really, I think this is best decided between CL management and the involved players + their clan representative.

Edited 5/21/2017 13:29:14

Other potential options not mentioned is to award half points to both clans for the 1-1 split over the 2 games, or award full points to both since both technically did get a win.

Edited 5/21/2017 13:47:28

We will play 3rd game coz that is fair thing to do.

I would change to...

I thought I could beat BIA 2 times so I could win 2 games for GG and earn 6 points instead of 3

Case closed.

Hmmm or we just use the first game created which would be the obvious choice since the second game shouldnt have been made... therefore 3 points to GG.

or we just trust the CLOT which is obviously smarter than all of us and gave 3 points to BIA. ;)

Edited 5/21/2017 15:45:48

shouldnt matter that much, we should still promote i guess ;)

Due to an obvious hack of the CLOT, both clans should be punished with relegation. :P

^

For example a 3rd game could be argued to be unfair, since GG has done better in Div B then BIA, thus GG would be more likely to win a replacement game

What other players have done shouldn't matter in for this game. If you just look at the strat ME tourney then yes, Mike performed better then rlhull. Saying its unfair because mike has more chance to win based on that is maybe true, but we can say its unfair he received a loss when he performs better.

As mifran said, I don't think this will cost us in the battle for promotion but what if it does? If we get 1 point short with this game counted as a loss.

why the fuck did the players join and play 2 games??

I cannot answer that question for rlhull but I know mike usually plays on phone and doesn't really bothers to check who he plays. If you don't check specifically the players invited its not uncommon to not see it on phone.

BUG/ERROR report

The bot made a weird mistake. By coincidence we found out the same game has been created (and played) twice. It happend on strat ME vs BIA.

First game: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=13456166
Second game: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=13455835

Both games created on the same day but 3 hours apart from each other. Seems the bot somehow didn't record the game had already been created and created it again. The game first created has been won by GG, the first one finished has been won by BIA. According to the spreadsheet the first finished game has been counted since we have received a loss.

Here is what happened.

• One of the games finished at 2017-05-10 20:04:22. This opened up a slot to create a new game between BIA and GG on Strat ME.
  
• At 2017-05-10 20:10:53, a game(13455835) was created. Uploading this information to google sheets failed due to the "Invalid crypto" error. For more details on this issue, see https://www.warlight.net/Forum/257731-python-gspread-error
  
• Since the game creation + updating google sheets is not an atomic operation, the CLOT is in an inconcsistent state as the doc says that the game between BIA and GG is yet to be allocated(although it has already been on WL)
  
• On the next run(3 hours later), the CLOT saw no game between BIA and GG. So it created another game(13456166) and logged this into the doc at 2017-05-10 23:07
  

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Evidence

• Logs from the CLOT run on 2017-05-10 20::00
  

  2017-05-10 20:03:47,477 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Updating game status for Group B - 1v1 : Old Strat ME
  2017-05-10 20:04:22,799 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13416431 has finished
  2017-05-10 20:05:24,631 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13371785 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 3
  2017-05-10 20:05:59,765 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13381596 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 6
  2017-05-10 20:06:41,887 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13416432 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 0
  2017-05-10 20:07:04,215 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13400024 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 4
  2017-05-10 20:07:04,224 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Updating game status for Group B - 1v1 : Phobia
  2017-05-10 20:07:36,623 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13417633 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 3
  2017-05-10 20:08:10,864 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13384376 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 11
  2017-05-10 20:08:17,531 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Updating game status for Group B - 1v1 : Strat Greece
  2017-05-10 20:08:53,597 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13348301 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 7
  2017-05-10 20:09:16,935 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13426606 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 0
  2017-05-10 20:09:17,942 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Updating game status for Group B - 1v1 : Volcano Island
  2017-05-10 20:09:41,470 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13320939 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 12
  2017-05-10 20:10:07,738 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13389199 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 7
  2017-05-10 20:10:25,895 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 3v3 : Deadman's Rome
  2017-05-10 20:10:28,060 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 3v3 : Europe
  2017-05-10 20:10:30,586 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 2v2 : China
  2017-05-10 20:10:37,119 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 2v2 : Final Earth
  2017-05-10 20:10:42,735 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 2v2 : Guiroma
  2017-05-10 20:10:45,105 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 1v1 : Elitist Africa
  2017-05-10 20:10:47,774 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 1v1 : Guiroma
  2017-05-10 20:10:50,535 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 1v1 : Old Strat ME
  2017-05-10 20:10:53,162 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Allocate matchup BIA vs GG for Tournament : Group B - 1v1 : Old Strat ME
  2017-05-10 20:10:55,511 - utilities.clan_league_logging - ERROR - Failed with - 401: b'<HTML>\n<HEAD>\n<TITLE>Token invalid - Invalid token: Crypto credential expired.
  </TITLE>\n</HEAD>\n<BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF" TEXT="#000000">\n<H1>Token invalid - Invalid token: Crypto credential expired.</H1>\n<H2>Error 401</H2>\n</BODY>\n</HTML>\n'

  
  
• Logs from the CLOT run on 2017-05-10 23::00
  

  2017-05-10 23:01:17,710 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Updating game status for Group B - 1v1 : Old Strat ME
  2017-05-10 23:01:44,681 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13371785 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 3
  2017-05-10 23:02:12,625 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13381596 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 6
  2017-05-10 23:02:42,977 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13416432 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 0
  2017-05-10 23:03:04,970 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13400024 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 4
  2017-05-10 23:03:04,982 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Updating game status for Group B - 1v1 : Phobia
  2017-05-10 23:03:33,982 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13417633 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 4
  2017-05-10 23:03:50,092 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13384376 has finished
  2017-05-10 23:04:34,983 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Updating game status for Group B - 1v1 : Strat Greece
  2017-05-10 23:05:09,471 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13348301 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 7
  2017-05-10 23:05:49,265 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13426606 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 0
  2017-05-10 23:05:50,209 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Updating game status for Group B - 1v1 : Volcano Island
  2017-05-10 23:06:32,436 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13320939 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 12
  2017-05-10 23:06:54,775 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Game 13389199 is not finished, state = Playing, numTurns= 7
  2017-05-10 23:07:03,334 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 3v3 : Deadman's Rome
  2017-05-10 23:07:05,840 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 3v3 : Europe
  2017-05-10 23:07:08,049 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 2v2 : China
  2017-05-10 23:07:11,318 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 2v2 : Final Earth
  2017-05-10 23:07:28,255 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 2v2 : Guiroma
  2017-05-10 23:07:30,458 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 1v1 : Elitist Africa
  2017-05-10 23:07:33,017 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 1v1 : Guiroma
  2017-05-10 23:07:35,270 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 1v1 : Old Strat ME
  2017-05-10 23:07:43,972 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Allocate matchup BIA vs GG for Tournament : Group B - 1v1 : Old Strat ME
  2017-05-10 23:07:50,316 - utilities.clan_league_logging - INFO - Find all match-ups to be allocated for Tournament : Group B - 1v1 : Phobia

  
  
• The teal colored text is the update(scroll to the left to see the time of update on the google doc)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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Resolution

• This is a known issue and can happen again in the future. There is no easy bug fix which can be applied to the CLOT for this problem(for more details see my explanation on the thread linked above). The only hope is that people decline the 2nd game and bring it to our attention if it occurs in the future. The long term solution to this problem is moving away from google docs as a database, and we will look at that in the off-season as it is a lot of work.
  
  
• We have decided to handle such issues in the following manner:
  
  • You report it to us and we fix it immediately by deleting one of the games.
    
  • If both games are played, we award the win to the player with a 2-0 record
    
  • If it is a 1-1 record, we recreate a third game and the winner of that game gets the win.

If you have any questions, let us know.

Update 21-05-2017

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Tournaments


Deadman's RoR
Orascio, Mike and EZPickens (GG) defeated ChrisCMU, Oh Noes and Mirror (WG)


GuiRoma
JV (GG) defeated ziskonian republic (MH)


Volcano Island
Ko (GG) defeated Smileyleg (WG)


Strat ME
Mike (GG) defeated MoOoOoOoO (VIW) after VIW got booted

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Finished Tournaments

Final Earth 2v2
1st: MIFRAN and EZPickens of GG with a record of 6-0
2nd: rakleader and <SNinja> KirbyBIGRIG of SNinja with a record of 5-1
3rd: vicnus and Rocky1 of VS with a record of 4-2
4th: AI and Emu Pub of MH with a record of 3-3
5th: ChrisCMU and Mirror of WG with a record of 2-4
6th: Bigby and [DragoN] SeruM of BIA with a record of 1-5
7th: AIRNewbie and MoOoOoOoO of VIW with a record of 0-6

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clans

GG
My god, GG has had an amazing week! Out of the 4 games that finished, GG won 4!! Their 4-0 record means that they have swiped all games since last update. Incredibly performance in this group! Their total record now is 40-15. This will certainly help them in the race for the promotionspots.

VS
VS didnt finish any games since last update. But due to a loss by MH, they climb to the second place. Thats how close the race at the top currently is! Their total record remains 35-19

MH
Their record this week was 0-1. THis puts them in third place with a record of 40-20. The race with VS is still extremely close. Exciting to see how this will end!

WG
WG does 0-2 this week. This actually means SNinja is slowly closing in! Can SNinja cause a surprise and take 4th place at the end. Or can WG remain in 4th. Their total record now is 28-27

SNinja
SNinja finishes no games this week. Their record remains at 23-34.

BIA
BIA also finished no games this week (not counting the Strat ME game against GG). Their record remains 21-39

VIW LOCKED
VIW goes 0-1 to put their total record at 13-46.

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Summary Table


Horse Race Table

thats a good point edge, relegation for both team a much better deterrent than 50 points.
I am obviously too soft for this game.
maybe we conduct a division B vote, 50 point or relegation. i think if 4 clans agree we have a deal, majority rule and all that.

i was not serious with both teams to lose if u guys missunderstod me, i was serious with the first created game should only count therefore the win should go to GG!