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Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/4/2017 00:14:26


Apollo
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Hello My Friends!

I'll be your score keeper for Qualifier 3, which we all know is the most exciting qualifying due to the amount of skill and variety each clan has to offer so be sure to stick around!




The clans that will be participating in this division are: (numbered alphabetically)

- 101st
- Apprentice
- Divided We Fall
- HAWKS
- Statisticians
- TJC




Since you may want to follow some of the other stuff that going on around CL you can find other links here:

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/220291-clan-league-9-signups
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/220290-clan-league-9-templates
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/224489-clan-league-9-template-voting
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/231273-clan-league-9-roster-lineup
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/242841-clan-league-9-kick
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/243545-cl-predictions-spreadsheet
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/243548-clan-league-9-predictions

Here is also the CL spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1P43KefXKdljuE2F8ZHSIQUrh9PHJ5co3oteiZ6E_8FA/pubhtml#

and a filtered view of the games:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1P43KefXKdljuE2F8ZHSIQUrh9PHJ5co3oteiZ6E_8FA/edit#gid=1570514738




The CL follows a specific format with all tournaments starting at a specific date,

2/3 - 3v3 Deadman's Rome
2/4 - 2v2 Guiroma
2/5 - 1v1 TBD
2/6 - 1v1 TBD
2/7 - 1v1 TBD




Now as for updates, I will be planning on doing an update twice a week! (One on Tuesday and another on Saturday)

Cheers,
Apollo

Edited 2/12/2017 01:59:25
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/4/2017 00:20:38

#1 Cata Cauda Fan!
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Wooooooooo

Excited to have chance to play in this competitive stage! Thanks to everyone organising it
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/4/2017 00:37:33


Platinum
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1. TJC - Have good players in the form of ALTs , More established and solid. Aslong as no hiccups and play to their ability they should win.

2. Apprentice-

3. Statisticians - Mixed line up , They have the stars but you need the depth , This CL will tell if they have the depth. The Stars can carry you so far..

4. 101st - Solid Line-up, They have done amazing to have the team they have. When I took over in CL7 our team was shocking bad (JSA made the team actually ) They are probably ahead of their time but I don't think they have enough quality players to compete with the others.

5.DWF - Needs Fireice and their team games to over perform for any chance to get to stage 2.

6. Hawks - The Hawks will drive through the runway instead of taking off , Will need to cause upsets.
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/4/2017 06:45:50


Apollo
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Clan League has begun!

3v3 Deadman's Rome has kicked off, I wish all the clans the best of luck, and may the best clan win!

Remember you can follow the games from the google spreadsheet which is in my first post!

Edited 2/4/2017 06:46:33
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/4/2017 09:21:34


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Good luck. Have fun all!!
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/5/2017 07:14:00


Apollo
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2v2 Guiroma has started!
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/6/2017 12:22:47


Min34 
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Haha, wouldnt it be silly if someone asked for tournament links even though a clot is used. haha, that would be very funny.

Edited 2/7/2017 17:44:50
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/6/2017 12:59:42


Onoma94 
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It's a CLOT, there are no tournaments...
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/6/2017 15:23:06


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Just as idea:
Could it help to Copy the current Q3 games of the filtered games sheet?
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/6/2017 16:42:28


Great Expanse 
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I don't know why its annoying to go to the google doc each time. Its easier to get all the information from one link rather then clicking through 6 tournament links.

On the Google Sheet, the score page will show the points totals for every clan on each template. The filtered games tab shows who is playing who and if you click on 'Data' up top then 'Filters' you can see all games for a specific group. The Summary page ranks all clans in a group with all relevant data points.

Simply, it isn't the same as the old way but is new. I do find it better.
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/6/2017 17:09:31


Master of the Dead 
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A gif of what GE just mentioned.



EDIT: This view is also sorted by game finish time, so it should be easy to follow the latest games.

Edited 2/6/2017 17:18:03
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/7/2017 08:43:40


Apollo
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UPDATE #1 - TUESDAY 7TH FEBRUARY

As I am not a member you have to bear with me here not being able to post pictures. However you will just have to read my amazing commentary.

As expected there are no games that have finished yet, however 4/5 tournaments have already started, the tournaments that have started are:

- 3v3 Deadman's Rome
- 2v2 Guiroma
-1v1 Guiroma
-1v1 Old Strat Me

and we are still waiting on 1v1 Volcano island to start.

There is an exciting match up between 101st and Apprentice in 2v2 Guiroma and as these two clans are the favorites for this division this match will be crucial!

Cheers,
Apollo
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/7/2017 09:32:59


krunx 
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There is an exciting match up between 101st and Apprentice in 2v2 Guiroma and as these two clans are the favorites for this division this match will be crucial!


As much as I would like to see 101st qualifing for stage 2, I think we are not the favorite in this group. The group is way to balanced to have a favorite. 101st had to restructure itself and therefore it is completly unclear, how good we are actually. Personally I think, TJC has the most experience line-up.
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/7/2017 13:49:48

linberson 
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@GE + MotD

On the Google Sheet, the score page will show the points totals for every clan on each template. The filtered games tab shows who is playing who and if you click on 'Data' up top then 'Filters' you can see all games for a specific group. The Summary page ranks all clans in a group with all relevant data points.


you can only do this if you have edit access.
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/7/2017 14:39:35


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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*zong*
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/7/2017 14:55:17


Onoma94 
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101st and Apprentice are two of the favorites, not the favorites. ;)
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/7/2017 15:41:09


Master of the Dead 
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you can only do this if you have edit access.

Nah. Anyone can do it ;)
Use this link instead to access the doc(the non-html version) - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P43KefXKdljuE2F8ZHSIQUrh9PHJ5co3oteiZ6E_8FA/edit#gid=1570514738
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/7/2017 20:25:03


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101st and Apprentice are two of the favorites, not the favorites. ;)

Tbh there are 4 favorites, a dark horse, and a team that has nothing to lose. This is a scary group.

Edited 2/8/2017 05:31:42
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/9/2017 13:15:39


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Q 3 is concurring with A in terms of speed
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/9/2017 17:04:02

Rikku 
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Measuring speed after a few days is going to be dodgy but judging by previous seasons of more skill == slower than it makes sense to be third slowest section.
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/10/2017 02:38:54


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Edited 2/10/2017 02:44:09
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/11/2017 01:09:25


Apollo
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UPDATE #2 - SATURDAY 11TH FEBRUARY

All the tournaments have now started!

First blood has also already been drawn! Electric_Kitten (101st) has gotten booted twice on 1v1 Guiroma against DWF and HAWKS! This is quite a blow for the 101st team especially since this happened so early in the tournament!


HAWKS -
 1v1:  3	    -       2v2: 0      -      3v3: 0            -         Max Points: 90                -        Win Rate %:  100.00%

DWF -
 1v1:  3	    -       2v2: 0      -      3v3: 0            -         Max Points: 90                -        Win Rate %:  100.00%

TJC -
 1v1: 0	    -	     2v2: 0      -       3v3: 0           -          Max Points: 90               -        Win Rate %: 00.00%

Statisticians -
1v1: 0	    -	     2v2: 0      -       3v3: 0           -          Max Points: 90               -        Win Rate %: 00.00%

Apprentice -
1v1: 0	    -	     2v2: 0      -       3v3: 0           -          Max Points: 90               -        Win Rate %: 00.00%

101st -
1v1: 0	    -	     2v2: 0      -       3v3: 0           -          Max Points: 84               -        Win Rate %: 00.00%


Or if you want a closer look you can look at this screens<span class='burning'>hot</span>: http://imgur.com/uvELaQR

HAWKS and DWF now have the early lead in the CL9 Q3! 101st are going to have to recover from these boots though, but we can't count them out yet! They have great skill and may pull a comeback in the rest of the CL!

cheers,
Apollo

Edited 2/11/2017 01:40:58
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/11/2017 01:35:40

Rikku 
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Inlined Apollo's link
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/11/2017 18:45:06


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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How often is the sheet actualizing itself?
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/11/2017 19:41:38


Master of the Dead 
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The sheet updates every 2-3 hours.

Edited 2/11/2017 20:00:12
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/12/2017 01:17:03


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Okay.

Apollo can you please put this link to your initial post please:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P43KefXKdljuE2F8ZHSIQUrh9PHJ5co3oteiZ6E_8FA/edit#gid=1570514738


It is the Spreadsheet link where you can filter.
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/12/2017 01:59:43


Apollo
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Thank you! I have updated the original post!
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/12/2017 11:24:25


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Ahm... MotD? Are there horseraces for the qualifiers?
I only can see some for A,B,C, D1 and D2, not for Q1,2,3

Edited 2/12/2017 11:24:38
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/12/2017 22:23:23


Great Expanse 
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I was short on time so I didn't make them for the Qualifiers but they can be added. There were some things I wanted to discuss about the Summary page with MotD and Beren before I started making changes as they are running this league after all.
Clan League 9: Division Q3 Official Thread: 2/13/2017 01:38:31


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Predictions based on 86 respondents:

                 1    2    3    4    5    6 mean   sd        
101st         25.6 29.1 23.3 15.1  4.7  2.3 2.51 1.28
Apprentice    32.6 23.3 22.1  8.1  2.3 11.6 2.59 1.62
Statisticians 24.4 22.1 23.3 20.9  7.0  2.3 2.71 1.35
TJC           15.1 14.0 12.8 20.9 30.2  7.0 3.58 1.58
DWF            3.5  9.3  8.1 27.9 37.2 14.0 4.28 1.28
Hawks          1.2  3.5  9.3  7.0 17.4 61.6 5.21 1.24

How do we start here? Clans are ranked by mean, but immediately at the start, it's obvious that the differences are small. In fact, there is no significant difference between the top 3 clans here. Even more: 4 clans got at least 10 first place votes here and each clan has at least 40% of the respondents placing them outside the top 2. Did we say brutal? Brutal.

101st ranks first so far, but we'll see if they can prove themselves. Their first rank is mainly thanks to few last place votes rather than a bunch of first places votes though and when it comes to getting into C, they get beaten by Apprentice by a single vote. About 55% ranks them in the top 2, but if they fail to make that, 38% of the respondents sees them finishing a respectable 3rd or 4th nevertheless. Most of this is actually pretty similar to the prediction of their parent clan, Lynx.

Apprentice ranks second while receiving both the most first place votes and the most top 2 (getting into C) votes. And, to keep the good news up, they even tie 101st in top 3 votes. Yet, 10 respondents see the clan finish last. Part of this may be caused by order (clans were in order of the google sheet in the poll, which put Apprentice last), but that probably doesn't explain everything. Even without those votes, there's still over 30% that sees this clan rank 3rd to 5th, a lot worst than their parent clan.

Statisticians are ranked third overall by virtue of basically getting 20% of the votes on positions 1 to 4 each with almost half of the respondents predicting them to reach C. As mentioned above, the difference between the top 3 are so small that they are not significant at the 5% level. Additionally, Statisticians shares the lowest number of last place votes, tied with 101st (2). (Both respondents answering this will be found and eliminated (both were anonymous, coincidence? ;-) )). That said, rumour has it that Math Wolf has been conducting and reporting analyses on predictions for Clan League for 4 hours now rather than taking his turns, giving him more stress and making it a lot more likely for Statisticians to lose their games. (Note: I ranked my own clan 3rd as well.)

TJC may be underrated with multiple alts in their mids, including nich and Pulsey (there, I said your name, I hope you feel special now). Some people may not be aware of this, as was also clear for 7th Heaven in one of the other qualifiers, leading to the large number of 5th place votes. Nevertheless, almost 30% predicts them to make it to C, adding to the reputation that in this qualifier, everything might be possible.

DWF is almost by default condemned to finish 5th in predictions like this, which is also the rank that most in the panel gave them. With so many good clans to choose from, only about 13% of the respondents believed DWF could make it to C with only 8% extra seeing a top 3 as possible. Thanks to the consensus 5th (and 4th) place votes, they tied 101st for the one but lowest variation in this division.

Just like DWF, Hawks is assumingly a victim of the reputation of the other clans rather than its own. They are the only clan with more than 40% of votes in a single rank, getting a majority of last place votes as a result. And even among those not putting Hawks last, there is very limited hope for them of reaching C according to our panel, with a single person believing they can win the group and 3 more thinking a second place is possible. Luckily (well, not for us, but trying to be objective here), the real results do not seem to match the predictions for this clan so far, but it's still early.

Please see https://www.warlight.net/Forum/243545-cl-predictions-spreadsheet?Offset=79 for full methodology and other divisions.

Edited 2/13/2017 16:42:03
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