Sounds good.

@ JSA, can you save my clan a spot in Group C? We are still discussing a name and only have three people at the moment but I think I will find a good 4th person soon.

Warlighters are interested in the Champions League-esque idea.

Can I join Group C with a few other non affiliated players? we can create a clan for that if that is necessary.

Myhand, If at least one of you has the clan tag on your name, and the others have it in their tagline, you can join. You also must have four players. But if it meets all of those requirements, there is no reason why you should be kept out.

I'm looking forward to at least having some challenging games from the unaffiliated players alliance in team C.
At least some competition :)

I'm not good at English,but I will do my best.

It's a very fun tournaments for us,I enjoy it very much.
I'm happy that we get 4th and we shuold be 3rd if we didn't make a mistake to put 2 players in one 1v1 tournaments.

Now let's say sth about trird clan league.
I don't know whether we can join it.
because most of us live in china and force a lot of pressure of living and studying.
Some of our good members have retired.
So I would do my best to join the 3rd but I'm afraid we can't get a achievement like this time.

BTW, you can invite [WL贴吧]chiyahoho together to discuss about later clan leagues and other tournaments.
He is our fresh leader now.:)

This translation may be better

I'm not good at English,but I will do my best.
It's a very fun tournaments for us,I enjoy it very much.
I'm happy that we get 4th and we shuold be 3rd if we didn't make a mistake to put 2 players in one 1v1 tournaments.

Now let's say sth about trird clan league.
I don't know whether we can join it.
because most of us live in china facing a lot pressure in study and work.
Our old members feel too tired after completed the clan 2.
anyway, we will try our best to play, but very apologetic，please don't expect our too much.

translation again

I'm not good at English,but I will do my best.
It was an exciting and challenging tournament, we had fun and learned a lot from it.
We may got bronze medalist if we didn't make the mistake that putting 2 players in one 1v1 tournament. but still, it’s our honors that we can got 4th.

Now, let's talk about the third clan league.
I am not sure whether we can join or not.
because most of us live in china and facing a lot of pressure from study or work. Our old members feel too tired after completed the clan 2. anyway, we will try our best to play, but very apologetic, please don't expect it too much.

Okay Snakeling, I understand what you are saying. This clan league will be a lot less games than the last one because there are only 7 clans in each group instead of the 20 clans last time. I will invite your leader to a game.

I made a mistake when I said about the settings earlier. 3v3 will still be Europe map but it will have Warlords in distribution instead of cities. Sorry if my earlier post messed up anybody.

Am I the only one who thinks that the minimum of 4 people per clan is too low? Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I thought that the league's main purpose was to indicate , more or less accurately, the whole clans' strength, and 4 is definitely to little to do that.

Personally, I'd set at least 6 as a minimum, with negative points if a clan is not able to gather this number. But if a clan doesn't have 6 active players, then it's not a real clan in my opinion.

Now, I'm not trying to force my idea, not at all. I'm clanless, so I don't care very much, I just wanted to share my opinion.

rento, some clans are small groups of friends or people form the same coutnry, and for this tournament you only need 4 different players to participate properly (4 1v1s, 2 2v2 teams and 1 3v3 team).
It should only matter how many players need to play, not how many players you have which aren't participating.

Rento, I agree with you that it would be better with 6 players in each clan. But some clans don't have 6 players and it would mean leaving out the smaller clans. And I think most of the clans with less than 10 players are trying to use everybody in their clan in at least one event even if it might hurt their score a couple points, because it is important to give everyone in your clan a shot.

The problem is that Warlight lacks an official clan system. You say that a group of 4 friends can already be called a clan. Some other man would say 3 is enough, or maybe even 2, why not?

For me, a clan is a term used for bigger groups, about 10+, but I realise that not every clan member wants/is able to participate, so I think a line-up of 6 (or more, if a clan wants to) would be good.

It's all subjective, I know.

JSA, smaller clans could participate, they would just lose some points. They could still have fun in a big clan event (that's important), but at the end they would be ranked lower, so that a "clan" consisting of only Myhand, Gui, HHH and another top player would not win the entire thing. That would be silly. And it's not unlikely to happen.

Anyway, how many clans do you think would suffer from this change? It can't be a big number.

i would say that because it's 4 1v1, 2 2v2, and 1 3v3 you should have a minimum of 4*1+2*2+1*3... = 11 members and some negative points for less, but it might be to harsh and might hit some of the top clans like apex, and i wouldn't like to let member numbers ruin the competition.. minimum of 6 would be good imho..

rento - by the way i see nothing bad in allowing a team of some of the top clanless players compete in it. It would be great to compete with the very top here for comparison. I think a team of myhand + timi + hhh + gui + gangnam + unknown or whoever else could realistically reach #1 here and if they did, it would make a great fight for the throne in the next seasons.. Even if they will be not ranked, they could get points to see how high up would they end up if being a clan.. (like guest racing drivers competing in open groups of rallye just for fun of it, and comparison, how fast a f1 driver can get on gravel etc)

I also see no problem with a team of top clanless players compete and I see no reason why they shouldn't be ranked. After all, they would be like a clan, just that they would prefer to call themselves a team. Nothing wrong with that...

...as long as they get a reasonable number of these top players. Again, it's all subjective, but 4 just doesn't work for me.

I'd want to see what the "global consensus" is.

It's too late to change it for this clan league, a few clans have sent lineups and I'm already talking to the smaller clans, I wouldn't like telling them they didn't have enough people to compete after they are spending their time trying to put a team together. However, I agree that it might be better in the future, the 4 was started in Season 1 mostly for AHOL and Apex, both of which had only 4-5 players when it first started. Now all the major clans seem to have at least 6-7 players so it isn't as big of a deal. I'm in favor of upping it to 6 for the next clan league. Does anybody disagree with expanding it to 6 clans for the next clan league?